« The citizen cannot complain, because he has voluntarily submitted himself to such a form of government. » wait what
@onethousandtwentyfour this is the "if they don't like how it's run they should just fork it" of government
@djsundog well, i mean, that was pretty much the declaration of independence, as i recall
@onethousandtwentyfour pretty sad that the only workable course of action seems to be bloody revolution but here we are
@djsundog i was listening to Hamilton the other day and just sort of Realized that conditions now are (in some ways) probably far worse than they were under the British at the time of the literal American Revolution, and just sort of had a real about that one
@onethousandtwentyfour @djsundog Yeah, but the people ruling us aren't in Yet Another Large-Scale conflict with another large power that we, because we're unimportant enough, can shift out from beneath and have our political allegiance with the one or the other be yet another proxy conflict within the larger war, with both sides pushing it.
(In some cases, perhaps as the lesser of multiple evils, and you could argue how voluntary that makes it, but presumably the people in charge of *creating* the new government, if not an autocracy, were pretty voluntary about it.)
@onethousandtwentyfour @djsundog Eh, I think at some point we're splitting hairs on some things. Sure, maybe you look back a couple decades later and say "oops", but that doesn't mean you didn't think it was going to go well in the first place.
I agree with your second point (kinda: most will "let" you "leave" unless you've already done something they don't like), but I'm not sure about the implication involved: society in general does this, and I'm not 100% sure it's always bad.
@onethousandtwentyfour (cf Snowcrash)
@onethousandtwentyfour fwiw this is at least half of the whole premise of the Terra Ignota series
@onethousandtwentyfour Don't tell me what I can or can't complain about!
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