@dredmorbius Really frustrates me when individuals/consumers tries to pass the buck, saying things like “oh we can still have cheeseburgers and cigarettes, the problem is Roxxon Oil Corporation.” EVERYONE needs to step the fuck up re this! Corporations, goverments, NGOs, clubs, organizations, families, even individuals! EVERYONE!
Littering, leaving the light on, and car culture are not and will never be cool!
@dredmorbius @Sandra (adding a thought, not diagreeing) why not both engagement against the big corporations and doing all the (maybe just symbolic) things in personal life? I think they would strengthen each other. It's the implicit theory that there's only limited attention,goodwill, and capacity for change in the population, so we need to choose our battles and take small steps. is that really how it works?
@coldwave @dredmorbius @Sandra honestly, the way I see promotion of individual actions is that they're most useful for building support for policy and industry action. *We* are reducing our waste footprint, so why isn't that industrial polluter? Get on it, company! Get on it, government!
If the action becomes the goal, most of the utility of the action is lost.
@Sandra @dredmorbius @coldwave for sure. That's one reason I said building support for instead of leading to - it could be support for good existing practices and rules, improved proposed practices and rules, or why the heck aren't you doing this yet what you have is inadequate!
@Sandra @dredmorbius @coldwave and the "get on it" in the example could as easily be enforcement directed at one company while others are doing well.
@varve @coldwave @dredmorbius
Yeah, I feel similarly.
Not to imply that company & govt are allowed to wait until we’ve done that, or in any other way are legitimate in using consumer efforts as “barometers” for how much greenwashing they should do. They need to get on actual change ASAP. But yeah. Not vice versa either. Anything we can do to reduce our footprints in the here&now, let’s do it!♥